No point in hiding any more
Jun. 1st, 2004 09:29 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
xp_daytripperSince the secret's out, there's no point in trying to hide it any more. Alison, any chance we could go shopping tomorrow afternoon after I get back from Stonewall? There's a swimsuit that needs buying - learning to swim in shorts and t-shirt is bloody difficult. Just... nothing too skimpy, all right? Hell will freeze over before I ever get into a bikini.
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Re: It depends.
Date: 2004-06-01 08:06 pm (UTC)Cookies are more valuable when shared. That is what they are for, secondarily. (First, they are for eating. Second, for sharing. Third for crumbling up and leaving in people's beds, but only ooky cinnamon cookies are for that.)
If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 08:08 pm (UTC)I never got cookies from either of my parents. And sharing them? Unlikely. Is that like a business meeting? I've been to plenty of those, and there was usually alcohol at the least, and food sometimes.
Manuel
Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 08:10 pm (UTC)NEVER?
Okay, you must understand that I am staring at my screen in disbelief.
*stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:12 pm (UTC)Never.
That's not the way we were. If I was a good boy, I could sit in the corner while Alphonso met with the King, or if I was extra-good, I could go play with the Crown Prince.
Or I could go for swims in the Med, or go out to a club, or something like that.
Cookies? I don't think so.
Manuel
Re: *stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:18 pm (UTC)I suppose perhaps it is a financial thing? It just...
Something about the way you say these things bothers me on a core level. I cannot put words to it.
Re: *stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:22 pm (UTC)He is a much older than I am (the Crown Prince, that is), so we never got to interact much.
Of course, that was all ... before.
Now I am nothing.
Manuel
Re: *stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:26 pm (UTC)Re: *stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:28 pm (UTC)Sorry, I've got to learn to stop doing that.
But it's hard sometimes. I used to have it all, and now ... I don't. Old habits die hard, even after all I've been through.
Forgive me?
Manuel
Re: *stops to think*
Date: 2004-06-01 08:32 pm (UTC)Even for Catholics, we have to work at it.
Nothing is stopping you from building a fortune and name of your own.
Well, realistically..
Date: 2004-06-01 08:34 pm (UTC)But I'm working on them. Slowly, and in my own way, but I am working on them.
The fortune I can possibly build. But not the name. The name stretches back to Imperial Rome herself. It has an age, a gravity, that cannot be duplicated by fiat.
But all of this is really very irrelevant. Maybe it would help to hear of your childhood, to hear how other people here were raised.
Might help me to understand, to be able to tell what is acceptable and normal and what is not.
Manuel
Re: Well, realistically..
Date: 2004-06-01 08:40 pm (UTC)The fortune.. Manuel, we should talk about that when you have some time.
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As for my childnood - you sound like Dr. Samson when you ask that.
I suppose it was normal enough, but I do not even know where to begin.
I spend far too much time with Samson
Date: 2004-06-02 06:32 am (UTC)And what about my efforts to raise a fortune? Does this offend you somehow?
Start at the beginning. You're French, obviously. From Lyons, if my admittedly spotty memory serves? What was it like?
I grew up in Basque country. It's a beautiful part of Spain, just on our side of the Pyranees. I learned to ride, and fence, and travelled all over Europe with fat - with Alphonso. I've met my King, and played chess with the Crown Prince. I've swam in the Mediterranean.
Not much to tell. A fairly standard upper-class upbringing.
Manuel
Re: I spend far too much time with Samson
Date: 2004-06-02 07:47 am (UTC)I grew up just outside of Lyon, though for all purposes, we lived there. I suspect my perceptions of it are coloured, having lived there all my life until moving here. It was a good place to grow up - there are a lot of museams and things to see. My father and I used to visit them, which I suppose is part of why I have such an interest in history classes now.
My parents are Catholic, and sent me to a religious school - my education was not that different from what we have here, with the exception of daily religion classes. And our teachers are not old, bad-tempered nuns. I suspect this was more my mother's doing than my father's, as she is rather more religious than he is.
I imagine my upbrining was fairly normal, with perhaps the exception of the overly religious mother. I do not have any brothers or sisters, but I have a cousin, and grandparents, and an aunt and uncle.
Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 08:14 pm (UTC)Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 08:19 pm (UTC)I am sorry. I did not mean to imply anything in particular except that I was surprised.
Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 09:09 pm (UTC)Any way, we call them biscuits back home. ;)
Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 09:14 pm (UTC)The nuns did not appriciate us wanting a practical demonstration.
Re: If you say so.
Date: 2004-06-01 09:16 pm (UTC)